One Flock or Two?

Two Folds One Flock

“I have other sheep that are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will heed my voice. So there shall be one flock, one shepherd.”

Jesus’ promise above is a promise of unity: other sheep, not of this fold, brought in to heed His voice, until there is one flock, one shepherd. The Watchtower reads in it the opposite — a permanent division among Christ’s followers.

Jehovah’s Witnesses teach that faithful Christians are divided into two classes with two hopes: a heavenly class of exactly 144,000 “anointed” who will rule with Christ in heaven, and an earthly class — the “great crowd” of “other sheep” — who will live forever on a paradise earth but never see heaven. The two are kept apart in practice: only the anointed may partake of the bread and wine at the annual Memorial.

But is this what Jesus and the apostles taught? Or does the New Testament know one people of God, with one hope, one Lord, one baptism (Eph. 4:4–5)? Let’s examine the question and see … Does Scripture teach two classes of Christian with two hopes, or one flock under one Shepherd?

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Watchtower View

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Jehovah’s Witnesses teach that faithful Christians fall into two distinct classes, with two distinct hopes: a heavenly class and an earthly class.

What They Affirm

The anointed 144,000 — a heavenly hope. A limited number, exactly 144,000, are “anointed” by God’s spirit to a heavenly calling. These are the “little flock” (Luke 12:32), chosen from Pentecost 33 C.E. onward, who will be resurrected as spirit creatures to rule with Christ as kings and priests in heaven (Revelation 14:1–3; 20:6). Witnesses take this number to be literal, drawn from Revelation 7:4–8 and 14:1–5.1

The great crowd of “other sheep” — an earthly hope. The vast majority of Witnesses belong instead to the “great crowd” of Revelation 7:9, identified with the “other sheep” of John 10:16 (“I have other sheep that are not of this fold”). These, they teach, are not called to heaven but will survive Armageddon, or be raised, to live forever on a restored paradise earth. They are God’s friends, declared righteous, but not his spirit-begotten heavenly sons. On this account the earth, not heaven, is humanity’s true and original home, as the meek are promised they “shall possess the land” and “inherit the earth” (Ps. 37:29; Matt. 5:5).2

The Hebrew Scriptures are said to settle it. The Watchtower rests much of the earthly hope on the Hebrew Scriptures: The righteous “will possess the earth, and they will reside forever upon it” (Ps. 37:29); the faithful will “build houses and live in them” and “plant vineyards and eat their fruitage” (Isa. 65:21); each will sit “under his vine and under his fig tree” with none to make him afraid (Mic. 4:4). The Watchtower claims this describes men and women living forever on a restored earth, and they would be empty if every faithful person went to heaven instead.3

1935: the dividing of the hopes. The Watchtower teaches that the gathering of the earthly class began in earnest in 1935. At a convention that year, J. F. Rutherford asked all who hoped to live forever on earth to stand, and declared, “Behold! The great multitude!” From that point the heavenly calling was regarded as essentially complete, and the great crowd was understood as a growing earthly class. (Earlier, the Watchtower had taught that the “great company” was itself heavenly.) Since 2007 the Society has said that it “cannot set a specific date for when the calling of Christians to the heavenly hope ends,” so 1935 is now treated as history rather than as a cutoff.4

The Memorial emblems — for the anointed only. Because only the 144,000 are in the new covenant, only they may partake of the bread and wine at the annual Memorial of Christ’s death. The great crowd attend and observe, but do not partake. Of the roughly twenty million who attend worldwide, some twenty-five thousand — those professing the heavenly calling — eat and drink.5

The location of the great crowd. Witnesses understand the great crowd of Revelation 7:9–17 to serve God on earth, not in heaven. Although the text places them “before the throne” and “in his temple,” the Watchtower interprets the temple (Greek naos) here as the earthly courtyard of God’s spiritual temple, rather than the heavenly sanctuary.6


Endnotes
  1. On the 144,000 as a literal number anointed to a heavenly hope, see “Who Really Have a Heavenly Calling?” (The Watchtower), and What Does the Bible Really Teach? (Watch Tower, 2005), ch. 7, “Real Hope for Your Loved Ones Who Have Died,” and the appendix “144,000—Who Are They?” The Witnesses cite Revelation 7:4–8 and 14:1–5; the “little flock” of Luke 12:32 is identified with this class.
  2. On the “great crowd” / “other sheep” with an earthly hope, see “The Great Crowd to Live in Heaven? Or on Earth?” in Jehovah’s Witnesses—Proclaimers of God’s Kingdom (Watch Tower, 1993), 159–167, and the Watchtower study article “The Great Crowd of Other Sheep Praise God and Christ” (January 2021). The great crowd of Revelation 7:9 is identified with the “other sheep” of John 10:16 and the “sheep” of Matthew 25:31–46, said to have “the prospect of living forever in Paradise on earth.”
  3. On the Hebrew Scriptures as the ground of the earthly hope, see What Does the Bible Really Teach? (Watch Tower, 2005), ch. 3, “What Is God’s Purpose for the Earth?” which gathers Psalm 37:29, Isaiah 65:21–23 and Micah 4:4 as descriptions of everlasting human life on a restored earth, and Insight on the Scriptures (Watch Tower, 1988), under “Earth,” on the earth as mankind’s permanent home.
  4. Proclaimers of God’s Kingdom (1993), 165–166, recounting the 1935 convention at which Rutherford declared, “Behold! The great multitude!” and the consequent treating of the heavenly calling as essentially complete. On the earlier teaching that the “great company” was heavenly, see The Finished Mystery (1917), 103, which numbered it in the hundreds of millions in heaven. On the end of the 1935 cutoff, “Questions From Readers,” The Watchtower, May 1, 2007, pp. 30–31.
  5. On the restriction of the Memorial emblems to the anointed, see “The Other Sheep and the New Covenant” (The Watchtower), which states that “only the 144,000 members of the Israel of God have properly partaken of the emblems during the Memorial,” and the annual Memorial partaker figures published by the Society (for the 2025 service year, 24,576 partakers out of 20,635,015 in attendance).
  6. On the great crowd serving in an “earthly courtyard,” see “A Multitudinous Great Crowd” in Revelation—Its Grand Climax At Hand! (Watch Tower, 1988), which argues that the naos of Revelation 7:15 is “the earthly courtyard of God’s spiritual temple” rather than the heavenly sanctuary, and that the great crowd “does not attain to” the position of the 144,000 “round about the throne.”

Watchtower sources checked against jw.org and the Watchtower Online Library through 7 September 2026.

Catholic View

The Catholic Church holds that there is one people of God with one hope. The other sheep of John 10:16 are the Gentiles, gathered with believing Israel into a single flock, which is exactly what the verse goes on to say. The whole two-class system rests on that one sentence, and the sentence just does not support it.

The Other Sheep Are the Gentiles

Put the question as a first-century disciple would have heard it. Why would Christ mention in passing a class of Christians His hearers would never meet, who on the Watchtower’s account would not begin to be gathered for nineteen centuries, and then say nothing further to explain it? The natural reading is the one the apostles reached within a few years: the fold is Israel, and the sheep “not of this fold” are the gentiles.

The grammar itself indicates this: Christ says these sheep are not of this fold (Greek ek, “out of, from”) which is language of origin, not of destination. The contrast is not between sheep bound for two different places but between sheep drawn from two different starting points, Jew and Gentile, who are then made one. The setting confirms it: He is speaking to Pharisees who took for granted that the Jews alone were God’s flock (John 9:40–10:16). To such hearers “other sheep not of this fold” could mean only the gentiles. To read a second, earthly destiny into them is the mail carrier’s reading again: the address correct, the household unknown.1

John supplies the interpretation himself a chapter later, telling us Christ would die “not for the nation only, but to gather into one the children of God who are scattered abroad” (John 11:51–52). And the disciples would have remembered these words exactly when Peter baptized Cornelius and his household and the gospel went out to the nations.

One Flock, One Shepherd

The decisive word stands in the very verse the doctrine is built on. Christ does not say there will be two flocks, or one flock in two divisions with two destinies. He says the opposite: “there shall be one flock, one shepherd” (John 10:16). The entire point of bringing in the other sheep is that the two become one. To read the verse as the charter of a permanent two-class system is to make it say the reverse of what it says.2

An older English rendering, “one fold,” once blurred this. The Greek is unmistakable: mia poimnē, one flock. There is one Shepherd and one flock that heeds His voice. The favorite proof-text, read to the end of its own sentence, is among the clearest refutations of the Watchtower doctrine it is used to support.

The Number That Refutes Itself

The Watchtower insists the number is literal. Very well, but the rule must then be applied evenly, because the passage that gives the number gives the description in the same breath and the same plain words.

Revelation says the 144,000 are sealed “from every tribe of the sons of Israel,” and then names them: twelve thousand from Judah, twelve thousand from Reuben, and so on through the list (Rev. 7:5–8). It adds that they are men “who have not defiled themselves with women, for they are virgins” (Rev. 14:4). If the number is literal, so are these. Heaven would then be reserved for exactly 144,000 celibate Jewish men, which shuts out the apostle Peter, who was married; shuts out the Virgin Mary, who was not male; and shuts out Charles Taze Russell, founder of the movement, who was not of the tribes of Israel. A reading that locks the founder of the Watchtower out of heaven has refuted itself.3

The escape from that absurdity is to read the tribes, the celibacy, and the maleness as symbolic, which is precisely what is refused for the number standing beside them. One cannot have it both ways. If “Israel” and “virgins” are figures for the whole people of God and their purity, then 144,000 is a figure too; the passage gives no hint that the number is to be treated differently from the description surrounding it. Taking one literally and the rest symbolically is not exegesis. It is selection, governed by the doctrine the number is needed to support.

The Multitude Before the Throne

Immediately after the sealing, John lifts his eyes and sees what the two-class scheme cannot accommodate: “a great multitude that no one could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb” (Rev. 7:9). The great crowd is assigned to earth. But the text could hardly be plainer that they are in heaven: they stand before the throne of God, they “serve him day and night in his temple,” and the Lamb at the center of the throne shelters them and leads them to springs of living water (Rev. 7:15–17).4

This is the same throne-room in which John has already seen the twenty-four elders seated (Rev. 4:4), the living creatures, and the numberless angels. To place the multitude there, before that throne, and then declare them an earthly class is to read into the vision a geography it does not contain. John sees one scene, one throne, one redeemed people gathered before it, heard as 144,000 in the first image and beheld as an uncountable host in the second. That is one people seen twice, not two crowds in two places.

The decisive word is “temple.” The Greek of 7:15 is naos, the inner sanctuary that only priests could enter, not hieron, the outer courts open to all. The Watchtower itself conceded in 2002 that the great crowd serve in the naos, and kept them on earth by reading the word broadly enough to take in the courtyard, citing Matthew 27:5 and John 2:20 for a wider sense. Its older answer, that the naos here means “the earthly courtyard of God’s spiritual temple,” reads the word backwards, and Revelation is not loose with it: the book sets “the court outside the naos” apart from it (Rev. 11:2), while every other naos in the book stands in heaven (Rev. 11:19; 14:17; 15:5).

No Room for the Martyrs

The arithmetic fails before the argument does. If exactly 144,000 in all of history are taken to heaven, and the calling was, on the Society’s teaching from 1935 to 2007, all but closed in 1935 — it has since allowed that the anointing continues, without saying how the count is kept — the count cannot accommodate the Christian dead of the first three centuries alone — among them the generations who went to their deaths rather than deny Christ. Revelation shows them where the scheme cannot put them: under the altar, “the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God,” crying out and given white robes (Rev. 6:9–11). And the early Church read them there from the beginning — Tertullian, writing around A.D. 200, takes the blood of the saints with which Babylon is drunk in Revelation 17:6 to be the blood of the Christian martyrs.

So the question presses itself: whom did the first Christians believe those martyrs to be, and where did they believe they had gone? A doctrine that must find room for the martyrs of the catacombs, the apostles, and every saint since, inside a number it long said was nearly filled by 1935, has run out of room in its own heaven.

The Meek and the Earth

Against this stand the texts promising that the meek will inherit the earth (Ps. 37:29; Matt. 5:5). But Christ is quoting the psalm, and in both the language is the covenant language of inheritance: the promised land as the pledge of what God will give His people. Hebrews says exactly what the patriarchs understood by it: they died without receiving the promises, because they desired “a better country, that is, a heavenly one” (Heb. 11:13–16). Nor does the Christian hope despise the earth. Scripture ends with “a new heaven and a new earth” and the holy city coming down (Rev. 21:1–2), one renewed creation for one redeemed people, not two destinations for two classes.5

The wider appeal to the Hebrew Scriptures fails at the same point, and for a plainer reason: those promises were made to a nation, not to individuals about their eternal destiny. When the psalm says the righteous will possess the land, when Isaiah says they will build houses and plant vineyards, when Micah puts every man under his own vine and fig tree, the subject is Israel in the land God swore to Abraham — a covenant people, in a territory, promised security in place of exile and dispossession. Not one of these texts is discussing who goes to heaven, because the question is not yet being asked; the fullness of the life to come is disclosed in Christ, who brought life and immortality to light through the gospel (2 Tim. 1:10). To read a permanent earthly class out of them is to answer a New Testament question with an Old Testament promise addressed to somebody else.5

Not a Government, but a Vision

Heaven is not primarily a government. The scheme assumes it is — an administration with a fixed number of seats, a premise examined at What Is the Kingdom Good News? Scripture does promise that the saints will reign with Christ, and Catholics confess it — but the reign is shared by all the redeemed, not a portfolio handed to a chosen few, and it is not what heaven most deeply is. Heaven is the vision of God: to see Him face to face and be satisfied in Him. There is no queue for that, and no vacancy limit on it. The Beatitude does not say “blessed are the 144,000” but “blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God” (Matt. 5:8) — a condition of the heart, not a place in a count.

And the apostles write to whole congregations as though the hope of every member were heavenly: “the hope laid up for you in heaven” (Col. 1:5); an inheritance “kept in heaven for you” (1 Pet. 1:4); “our commonwealth is in heaven” (Phil. 3:20); “holy brethren, who share in a heavenly call” (Heb. 3:1). These are letters to ordinary Christians at Colossae and Philippi and across Asia Minor, not to a small anointed class.

The Watchtower’s answer is that these writings were meant for the anointed in the first place. Its own reference work says the Christian Greek Scriptures are “of universal importance, interest, and concern primarily to spiritual Israel, which is the congregation of God, but, additionally, to all persons who seek the approval of God.” That is a costly answer. If those letters were addressed chiefly to a class of which the great crowd is no part, then their commands about marriage, work, speech and forgiveness were addressed chiefly to that class too — yet every Witness is taught to obey them as written to him. The rule shifts with the subject: the epistles are read as speaking to every Christian until they speak of heaven.6

One Body, One Hope

What John states in the image of the flock, Paul states in the language of the body: “there is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call, one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all” (Eph. 4:4–6). One hope, named explicitly, for all the baptized. A doctrine of two hopes (heavenly for the few, earthly for the many) runs straight against a confession that hammers the word “one” seven times.7

And the unity Paul means is precisely the joining of the two folds. Christ “has made us both one, and has broken down the dividing wall of hostility … that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two” (Eph. 2:14–16). The Gentiles, once “strangers to the covenants of promise,” are “brought near” and made “fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God” (Eph. 2:12–19). The whole movement of the gospel is from two into one. The two-class system runs it backward, rebuilding inside the Church the very dividing wall Christ tore down, no longer between Jew and Gentile, but between a heavenly 144,000 and an earthly multitude.8

One Mediator, One Table

The division cannot be confined to the future hope; it works backward into the present life of the congregation. Paul writes that “there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all” (1 Tim. 2:5–6). The two-class scheme requires that most believers relate to God as friends rather than children, and to the new covenant at one remove.

It shows most painfully at the Lord’s table, where only the anointed partake, so that the great majority pass the bread and the cup along untasted. But Christ made partaking the condition of life — “unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you” (John 6:53) — and said, “drink of it, all of you” (Matt. 26:27), and the covenant He was inaugurating in that cup is the one He shed His blood to make. When He sent the apostles to make disciples of all nations, the commission was to teach them “to observe all that I have commanded you” (Matt. 28:19–20), the command of the Supper included. A system that turns most of the body of Christ into spectators at His own table has mistaken the nature of the gift.9

This is the short answer. The full treatment adds the history of how the two-class doctrine was arrived at and when the earthly class was first announced, what the New Testament means by the new covenant and who is party to it, the “friends of God” language and what Scripture actually does with it, and full documentation for everything asserted here. It is available as a Word document at the end of this page.


Endnotes
  1. John 10:16, with the preposition ek denoting origin. The setting runs continuously from John 9:40, where the Pharisees are the immediate audience. The identification of the other sheep with the Gentiles is as old as the Fathers: Augustine, Tractates on the Gospel of John 47.2–4, reads them as the Gentiles called into the one Church, around A.D. 400 and long before the question was controversial. So too the New Catholic Encyclopedia, s.v. “Christianity,” which glosses John 10:16 as Christ’s announcement of “the future extension of his Kingdom” to the nations (cf. Matt. 8:11; 28:19).
  2. The Greek is mia poimnē, heis poimēn, one flock, one shepherd. The King James rendering “one fold” follows the Latin ovile and obscures the distinction between the fold (aulē) of v. 16a and the flock (poimnē) of v. 16b; modern versions correct it.
  3. Revelation 7:4–8 for the tribal enumeration and 14:4 for the description of the sealed as male virgins. The point is not that these details must be pressed literally, but that the Watchtower does not press them literally while insisting the number in the same sentence must be.
  4. Revelation 7:9–17. The multitude stands “before the throne,” serves God “day and night in his temple,” and is sheltered by the Lamb “in the midst of the throne,” the same heavenly setting as Revelation 4:4 and 5:11. Locating them on earth requires importing a geography the vision does not supply.
  5. Matthew 5:5 quotes Psalm 37:11; compare Psalm 37:29. On the land-promise as pledge of a greater inheritance, Hebrews 11:13–16, where the patriarchs are said to have sought “a better country, that is, a heavenly one.” On the renewed creation, Revelation 21:1–2 and Romans 8:19–23. The Christian hope includes a redeemed earth; what it does not include is two peoples with two destinies.
  6. On the beatific vision, see Catechism of the Catholic Church §§1023–1029, with Matthew 5:8; 1 John 3:2; 1 Corinthians 13:12. On the heavenly hope held out to congregations at large, Colossians 1:5; 1 Peter 1:3–4; Philippians 3:20; Hebrews 3:1; and Hebrews 12:22–23, where the readers are told they “have come” to “the assembly of the first-born who are enrolled in heaven.” On the saints reigning with Christ, Revelation 20:6 and 2 Timothy 2:12, which the Catholic tradition reads of all the redeemed. The quoted statement that the Christian Greek Scriptures are of concern “primarily to spiritual Israel, which is the congregation of God, but, additionally, to all persons who seek the approval of God” is from Insight on the Scriptures (Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania, 1988), Vol. 1, entry “Christian Greek Scriptures,” 444; “spiritual Israel” and “the Israel of God” are the Watchtower’s terms for the anointed 144,000.
  7. Ephesians 4:4–6. The sevenfold repetition is deliberate and is the passage’s whole rhetorical point.
  8. Ephesians 2:11–22, on the dividing wall, the one new man, and the Gentiles as fellow citizens rather than resident aliens. Compare Galatians 3:28 and Colossians 3:11.
  9. 1 Timothy 2:5–6; Matthew 26:27–28, with Mark 14:23–24 and Luke 22:20 on the cup as the new covenant in Christ’s blood. The restriction of the emblems is treated on the companion page Do This in Memory of Me?

Summary

Questions to Answer
  • Jesus said the other sheep would become “one flock, one shepherd” (John 10:16). How does one flock become two classes, with two hopes and two destinations?
  • Revelation numbers the 144,000 as men of the tribes of Israel who are virgins (Rev. 14:4). Why is the number read literally while its literal descriptions are dropped?
  • If most Witnesses have only an earthly hope, why does the New Testament promise every believer a heavenly inheritance (1 Pet. 1:4; Col. 1:5)?
  • Why are almost all Witnesses forbidden the bread and cup Jesus gave to all His disciples?

These are the questions the Society’s own texts raise, and they deserve answers.

The Watchtower divides faithful Christians into two classes, a heavenly 144,000 and an earthly “great crowd,” with two hopes between them. The New Testament knows one people of God with one hope. The two-class system divides what the gospel was given to unite, and it rests on readings the texts will not bear.

The “other sheep” are the Gentiles. The whole earthly class hangs on John 10:16, but the natural sense is that the “fold” is Israel and the other sheep are the Gentiles about to be brought in. The grammar agrees: they are not “of” (ek, out of) this fold, language of origin, not destination; and the verse ends by declaring the opposite of two classes, “there shall be one flock, one shepherd.” John confirms it a chapter later: Jesus would die “to gather into one the children of God who are scattered abroad” (John 11:51–52).

One body, one hope. Paul names “one body … one hope … one Lord, one faith, one baptism” (Eph. 4:4–6), and his gospel is the breaking down of “the dividing wall” to make “one new man in place of the two” (Eph. 2:14–16). The two-class system rebuilds inside the Church the wall Christ tore down. The apostles write to whole congregations as though every member’s hope were heavenly: “the hope laid up for you in heaven” (Col. 1:5), an inheritance “kept in heaven for you” (1 Pet. 1:4), “our commonwealth is in heaven” (Phil. 3:20).

The 144,000 is not a literal census. It comes from the most symbolic book in Scripture, “sealed out of every tribe of the sons of Israel” (Rev. 7:4–8); pressed literally, heaven would be open only to celibate Jewish men (Rev. 14:4), which the Watchtower does not believe. The Church has never required one reading of the number; the Watchtower makes its reading the test of who may hope for heaven and who may eat the bread.

The great crowd is in heaven. In Revelation 7 the great crowd stands “before the throne and before the Lamb,” exactly where the 144,000 are (14:3), while “all the angels” fall down and worship. They serve “in his temple,” and the word is naos, the inner sanctuary only priests could enter, not hieron, the outer courts. The Watchtower conceded in 2002 that the great crowd are in the naos, and kept them on earth by reading the word broadly enough to take in the courtyard, which Revelation itself sets “outside the naos” (11:2).

“The meek shall inherit the earth” is not a second hope. Christ quotes Psalm 37, covenant language of inheritance, and Hebrews says what the patriarchs understood by it: a “better country, that is, a heavenly one” (Heb. 11:13–16). Heaven is the vision of God (Matt. 5:8; 1 John 3:2), the end for which every human being is made.

The table withheld. Christ made partaking the condition of life: “Unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you” (John 6:53). “Do this in remembrance of me” was said to all His disciples, and the commission was to teach them “all that I have commanded you” (Matt. 28:20). Yet the Watchtower forbids most of its own members to partake.

No room for the martyrs. If only 144,000 in all of history go to heaven, and the calling was all but closed in 1935 on the Society’s teaching until 2007, the count cannot hold the Christian dead of the first three centuries, whom Revelation shows in heaven, the souls “under the altar” given white robes (Rev. 6:9–11).

In short: Scripture divides humanity not into a heavenly class and an earthly class, but into those written in the Lamb’s book of life and those who are not (Rev. 20:15). For all the redeemed there is a single destiny, the new heaven and new earth made one, where “the dwelling of God is with men” (Rev. 21:1–3). Scripture knows one Lord, one faith, one baptism, and one flock gathered from every fold into the household of God.